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Editor: Bill Page
Time: 2008/07/08 22:22:15 GMT-7
Note: Re: justification

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From BillPage Tue Jul 8 22:22:15 -0700 2008
From: Bill Page
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:22:15 -0700
Subject: Re: justification
Message-ID: <20080708222215-0700@axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org>

The multiplication of a Float and some unknown symbolic value must
produce a symbolic expression of some kind. If we know that the
currently unknown symbolic value can only take values from Float,
then we can deduce from knowledge of multiplication in Float that
the value of the symbolic expression representing the multiplication
of a Float with this unknown symbolic value must also only take
values from Float.

But Axiom currently does not have any domain whose values are
symbolic expressions which only evaluate to values in some specific
domain. Polynomial is one of the existing domains in Axiom whose
values are symbolic expressions (of a very specific type). Symbolic
expression in the domain Expression are more general but still
rather restricted in form. Finally there is InputForm which
consists of fully unevaluated expressions of the most general
form allowed in Axiom.

Perhaps what you have called "Symbolic Float" could be implemented
as an extension of the domain I called "Indeterminant" above.

Symbolic Integers

A simple form of symbolic computation using just Variable and Integer.

axiom
a:Union(Variable a,Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b:Union(Variable b,Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
c:=a*3-b*2
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
p:UP(x,Integer):=x*2-7
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Type: UnivariatePolynomial?(x,Integer)
axiom
pc := p c
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Type: Fraction Polynomial Integer
axiom
f(x)==x^3-x^2+1
Type: Void
axiom
fb := f b
axiom
Compiling function f with type Variable b -> Polynomial Integer
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
a:=1
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Type: Union(Integer,...)
axiom
b:=-3
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Type: Union(Integer,...)
axiom
c
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
eval(pc,['a=a,'b=b])
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Type: Fraction Polynomial Integer
axiom
eval(c,['a=a,'b=b])
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
eval(fb,['a=a,'b=b])
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
a:=3.14 -- not permitted!

Cannot convert right-hand side of assignment 3.14

to an object of the type Union(Variable a,Integer) of the left-hand side. a:='b -- not permitted!

Cannot convert right-hand side of assignment b

to an object of the type Union(Variable a,Integer) of the left-hand side.

For more complex cases it is necessary to define a new domain of "indeterminants". These are symbols and unevaluated expressions that can be evaluated at a later time. This domain is modeled after InputForm? which provides all of the basic functionality.

spad
)abbrev domain INDET Indeterminant ++ Description: ++ Based on InputForm Indeterminant(): Join(SExpressionCategory(String,Symbol,Integer,DoubleFloat,OutputForm), ConvertibleTo SExpression) with eval: % -> Any ++ eval(f) passes f to the interpreter. binary : (%, List %) -> % ++ \spad{binary(op, [a1,...,an])} returns the input form ++ corresponding to \spad{a1 op a2 op ... op an}. function : (%, List Symbol, Symbol) -> % ++ \spad{function(code, [x1,...,xn], f)} returns the input form ++ corresponding to \spad{f(x1,...,xn) == code}. lambda : (%, List Symbol) -> % ++ \spad{lambda(code, [x1,...,xn])} returns the input form ++ corresponding to \spad{(x1,...,xn) +-> code} if \spad{n > 1}, ++ or to \spad{x1 +-> code} if \spad{n = 1}. "+" : (%, %) -> % ++ \spad{a + b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a + b}. "-" : (%, %) -> % ++ \spad{a - b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a - b}. "-" : % -> % ++ \spad{-a} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{-a}. "*" : (%, %) -> % ++ \spad{a * b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a * b}. "/" : (%, %) -> % ++ \spad{a / b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a / b}. "**" : (%, NonNegativeInteger) -> % ++ \spad{a ** b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a ** b}. "**" : (%, Integer) -> % ++ \spad{a ** b} returns the input form corresponding to \spad{a ** b}. unparse : % -> String ++ unparse(f) returns a string s such that the parser ++ would transform s to f. ++ Error: if f is not the parsed form of a string. declare : List % -> Symbol ++ declare(t) returns a name f such that f has been ++ declared to the interpreter to be of type t, but has ++ not been assigned a value yet. ++ Note: t should be created as \spad{devaluate(T)$Lisp} where T is the ++ actual type of f (this hack is required for the case where ++ T is a mapping type). compile : (Symbol, List %) -> Symbol ++ \spad{compile(f, [t1,...,tn])} forces the interpreter to compile ++ the function f with signature \spad{(t1,...,tn) -> ?}. ++ returns the symbol f if successful. ++ Error: if f was not defined beforehand in the interpreter, ++ or if the ti's are not valid types, or if the compiler fails. coerce : Integer -> % == SExpression add Rep := SExpression

mkProperOp: Symbol -> % strsym : % -> String tuplify : List Symbol -> %

coerce(x:Integer):% == convert(x) coerce(x:%):OutputForm == expr x

convert(x:%):SExpression == x pretend SExpression

conv(ll : List %): % == convert(ll pretend List SExpression)$SExpression pretend %

lambda(f,l) == conv([convert("+->"::Symbol),tuplify l,f]$List(%))

eval x == v := interpret(x)$Lisp mkObj(unwrap(objVal(v)$Lisp)$Lisp, objMode(v)$Lisp)$Lisp

convert(x:DoubleFloat):% == convert(x)$Rep

strsym s == string? s => string s symbol? s => string symbol s error "strsym: form is neither a string or symbol"

unparse x == atom?(s:% := form2String(x)$Lisp) => strsym s concat [strsym a for a in destruct s]

declare signature == declare(name := new()$Symbol, signature)$Lisp name

compile(name, types) == symbol car cdr car selectLocalMms(mkProperOp name, convert(name)@%, types, nil$List(%))$Lisp

mkProperOp name == op := mkAtree(nme := convert(name)@%)$Lisp transferPropsToNode(nme, op)$Lisp convert op

binary(op, args) == (n := #args) < 2 => error "Need at least 2 arguments" n = 2 => convert([op, first args, last args]$List(%)) convert([op, first args, binary(op, rest args)]$List(%))

tuplify l == empty? rest l => convert first l conv concat(convert("Tuple"::Symbol), [convert x for x in l]$List(%))

function(f, l, name) == nn := convert(new(1 + #l, convert(nil()$List(%)))$List(%))@% conv([convert("DEF"::Symbol), conv(cons(convert(name)@%, [convert(x)@% for x in l])), nn, nn, f]$List(%))

s1 + s2 == conv [convert("+"::Symbol), s1, s2]$List(%)

s1 - s2 == conv [convert("-"::Symbol), s1, s2]$List(%)

_-(s1) == conv [convert("-"::Symbol), s1]$List(%)

s1 * s2 == conv [convert("*"::Symbol), s1, s2]$List(%)

s1:% ** n:Integer == conv [convert("**"::Symbol), s1, convert n]$List(%)

s1:% ** n:NonNegativeInteger == s1 ** (n::Integer)

s1 / s2 == conv [convert("/"::Symbol), s1, s2]$List(%)

spad
   Compiling FriCAS source code from file 
      /var/zope2/var/LatexWiki/7483143363411555740-25px002.spad using 
      old system compiler.
   INDET abbreviates domain Indeterminant 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
   initializing NRLIB INDET for Indeterminant 
   compiling into NRLIB INDET 
   compiling exported coerce : Integer -> $
Time: 0.04 SEC.

compiling exported coerce : $ -> OutputForm Time: 0 SEC.

compiling exported convert : $ -> SExpression INDET;convert;$Se;3 is replaced by x Time: 0 SEC.

compiling local conv : List $ -> $ Time: 0.10 SEC.

compiling exported lambda : ($,List Symbol) -> $ Time: 0.02 SEC.

compiling exported eval : $ -> Any Time: 0 SEC.

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compiling local strsym : $ -> String Time: 0.01 SEC.

compiling exported unparse : $ -> String Time: 0.07 SEC.

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compiling exported binary : ($,List $) -> $ Time: 0.04 SEC.

compiling local tuplify : List Symbol -> $ Time: 0.08 SEC.

compiling exported function : ($,List Symbol,Symbol) -> $ Time: 0.03 SEC.

compiling exported + : ($,$) -> $ Time: 0.01 SEC.

compiling exported - : ($,$) -> $ Time: 0 SEC.

compiling exported - : $ -> $ Time: 0.01 SEC.

compiling exported * : ($,$) -> $ Time: 0.06 SEC.

compiling exported ** : ($,Integer) -> $ Time: 0.01 SEC.

compiling exported ** : ($,NonNegativeInteger) -> $ Time: 0 SEC.

compiling exported / : ($,$) -> $ Time: 0.01 SEC.

(time taken in buildFunctor: 1)

;;; *** |Indeterminant| REDEFINED

;;; *** |Indeterminant| REDEFINED Time: 0.01 SEC.

Warnings: [1] conv: pretend$ -- should replace by @

Cumulative Statistics for Constructor Indeterminant Time: 0.51 seconds

finalizing NRLIB INDET Processing Indeterminant for Browser database: --------(eval ((Any) %))--------- --------(binary (% % (List %)))--------- --------(function (% % (List (Symbol)) (Symbol)))--------- --------(lambda (% % (List (Symbol))))--------- --------(+ (% % %))--------- --------(- (% % %))--------- --------(- (% %))--------- --------(* (% % %))--------- --------(/ (% % %))--------- --------(** (% % (NonNegativeInteger)))--------- --------(** (% % (Integer)))--------- --------(unparse ((String) %))--------- --------(declare ((Symbol) (List %)))--------- --------(compile ((Symbol) (Symbol) (List %)))--------- --->-->Indeterminant((coerce (% (Integer)))): Not documented!!!! --------constructor--------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Indeterminant is now explicitly exposed in frame initial Indeterminant will be automatically loaded when needed from /var/zope2/var/LatexWiki/INDET.NRLIB/code

Symbolic Matrices

axiom
)clear all

All user variables and function definitions have been cleared.

axiom
m:Union(Indeterminant,Matrix Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
n:Union(Indeterminant,Matrix Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
a:Union(Indeterminant,Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b:Union(Indeterminant,Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
ab:=(3*a+b)*(a-2*b)
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Type: Indeterminant
axiom
a:=1$Integer -- because 0 and 1 can be symbolic!
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Type: Union(Integer,...)
axiom
eval ab
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Type: Indeterminant
axiom
b:=0$Integer
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Type: Union(Integer,...)
axiom
a:=-10
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Type: Union(Integer,...)
axiom
eval ab
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Type: PositiveInteger?
axiom
mn1:= m*n-n*m
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Type: Indeterminant
axiom
mn2:=(m+n)*(m-n-1)
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Type: Indeterminant
axiom
m:=matrix [[1,2],[3,4]]
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Type: Union(Matrix Integer,...)
axiom
n:=matrix [[-1,-2],[-3,4]]
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Type: Union(Matrix Integer,...)
axiom
eval mn1
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Type: Matrix Integer
axiom
eval mn2
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Type: Matrix Integer

Questions --yixin.cao, Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:36:24 -0700 reply
In the Union(Variable a,Integer) way,

axiom
)clear all

All user variables and function definitions have been cleared.

axiom
d: Union(Variable d, Float)
Type: Void
axiom
d*2
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Type: Polynomial Integer

will be problematic, and the assignment between symbolic integers is not allowed.

axiom
a: Union(Variable a, Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b: Union(Variable b, Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b:=a

a is declared as being in Union(Variable a,Integer) but has not been given a value.

Re: will be problematic --Bill Page, Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:48:14 -0700 reply
I agree that the type Union(Variable d,Integer) alone is not sufficient for symbolic computation. But although it might look strange, in fact a result of Polynomial Integer for 2*d is not really a problem. Remember that the use of Integer in Polynomial Integer does not mean that evaluation of the polynomial yields an Integer - it means only that the domain of the coefficients of the polynomial are integers (i.e. that 2 is an integer), it says nothing about 'd':
axiom
p:=2*d
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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
eval(p,d=3.14)
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Type: Polynomial Float

But there is still a problem since I can write:

axiom
a:Union(Variable a,Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
a:=3.14

Cannot convert right-hand side of assignment 3.14

to an object of the type Union(Variable a,Integer) of the left-hand side. p:=2*a

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Type: Polynomial Integer
axiom
eval(p,a=3.14)
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Type: Polynomial Float

and Axiom does not complain about the eval request because as far as Polynomial Integer is concerned d is just a Symbol.

In the case of the example Indeterminant domain, evaluation of symbolic expressions is always delayed so an appropriate eval operation could be defined that properly respects the type.

Re: assignment between symbolic integers --Bill Page, Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:00:37 -0700 reply
I am not sure what b:=a should mean. Does it mean that Variable(b) is to be assigned the Symbol a? If so then I think the type should admit this possibility. E.g.
axiom
c:Union(Variable(c),Symbol)
Type: Void
axiom
c:=a
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Type: Union(Symbol,...)

the fundamental problem is that, when you define d as Float, the computation of (2 * d) should NOT be polynomial float (nor polynomial integer showed here), but Float, or Symbolic Float and even Expression Float if you want.

PS: In the light of polynomial, (2d) is a non-zero polynomial, so that it's always safe to write (1/(2d)), but it's actually non-safe to do it in the domain of float(or integer).

b:=a is meaningless, of course. But there are many scenarios

axiom
)clear all

All user variables and function definitions have been cleared.

axiom
i:=10
how about i:=-10?
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Type: PositiveInteger?
axiom
a: Union(Variable a, Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b: Union(Variable b, Integer)
Type: Void
axiom
b:= (i>0=>1; a)
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Type: Union(Integer,...)

which is meaningful.

Re: Expression Float --Bill Page, Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:02:43 -0700 reply
Be careful, Expression Float may not be what you think it is. In Axiom Expression R is a domain constructor which extends rational functions with coefficients in R (Fraction Polynomial R) by adding a set of common operators, e.g. sin, sqrt, etc. Again the appearance of Float here does not say anything specific about the result of evaluating the expression or even the values that can be associated with it's generators. I do not know why one might prefer Expression Float over Polynomial Float or even Polynomial Integer.

We wish to place a restriction on the possible values that certain symbols can take. Such symbols and expressions formed from them certainly cannot live in a numeric domain such as Float. Except in certain circumstances (mentioned previously) I think a domain such as a:Union(Variable(a),Float) and the domains to which it can be coerced (such as Polynomial, Expression, ...) does already represent such a symbolic expressions fairly well.

But 1) What is Symbolic Float? Can you give a description?

And 2) How can I express the concept of "non-zero polynomial" in Axiom? I might use a domain that does not include zero for example a:Union(Variable(a),PositiveInteger) but there is no general domain of NonZero anything.

Well, I don't like Expression Float. But I notice somebody takes it as a choice, so I put it there with "if you want".

Ok, back to my own point. what's the justification of that the multiplication of two floats returns a polynomial float? Even the value is unknown, the type is certain, and float is closed under multiplication, so the return must be still a float, right?

AFAIK, Axiom currently support only polynomials with coefficients of known values. Then the only zero-polynomial(Integer) is 0$Polynomial Integer, others are non-zero polynomials.

Re: justification --Bill Page, Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:22:15 -0700 reply
The multiplication of a Float and some unknown symbolic value must produce a symbolic expression of some kind. If we know that the currently unknown symbolic value can only take values from Float, then we can deduce from knowledge of multiplication in Float that the value of the symbolic expression representing the multiplication of a Float with this unknown symbolic value must also only take values from Float.

But Axiom currently does not have any domain whose values are symbolic expressions which only evaluate to values in some specific domain. Polynomial is one of the existing domains in Axiom whose values are symbolic expressions (of a very specific type). Symbolic expression in the domain Expression are more general but still rather restricted in form. Finally there is InputForm? which consists of fully unevaluated expressions of the most general form allowed in Axiom.

Perhaps what you have called "Symbolic Float" could be implemented as an extension of the domain I called "Indeterminant" above.