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-"GNU OldTeXmacs":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html is a free scientific text editor, which was both inspired by TeX and GNU Emacs. The editor allows you to write structured documents via a wysiwyg (what-you-see-is-what-you-get) and user friendly interface. New styles may be created by the user. The program implements high-quality typesetting algorithms and TeX fonts, which help you to produce professionally looking documents. One major objective of OldTeXmacs is to promote the development of free software for and by scientists, by significantly reducing the cost of producing high quality user interfaces. Axiom is one of many programs for which "interfaces":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/plugins/plugins.en.html exist. GNU OldTeXmacs runs on most Unix architectures, as well as on Windows. Detailed information is available for "downloading and installing":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/download/download.en.html OldTeXmacs.
"GNU TeXmacs":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/home/welcome.en.html is a free scientific text editor, which was both inspired by TeX and GNU Emacs. The editor allows you to write structured documents via a wysiwyg (what-you-see-is-what-you-get) and user friendly interface. New styles may be created by the user. The program implements high-quality typesetting algorithms and TeX fonts, which help you to produce professionally looking documents. One major objective of TeXmacs is to promote the development of free software for and by scientists, by significantly reducing the cost of producing high quality user interfaces. Axiom is one of many programs for which "interfaces":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/plugins/plugins.en.html exist. GNU TeXmacs runs on most Unix architectures, as well as on Windows. Detailed information is available for "downloading and installing":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/download/download.en.html TeXmacs.

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-   On all Unix/Linux systems the most recent version of OldTeXmacs is pre-configured to automatically interface with Axiom provided that Axiom is "installed":AxiomBinaries and AXIOMsys is accessible at the command line (must be in the path). The current interface for Axiom has some known limitations when formatting long mathematical expressions.
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-   "Cygwin":http://www.cygwin.com is a Unix-emulation environment for windows. The "cygwin version of OldTeXmacs":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/download/cygwin.en.html automatically interfaces with "Axiom for Windows":AxiomBinaries provided that the Path enviroment variable includes the Axiom directory as described in AxiomBinaries. This path is set automatically by the "Axiom for Windows":AxiomBinaries installer program. 
   On all Unix/Linux systems the most recent version of TeXmacs is pre-configured to automatically interface with Axiom provided that Axiom is "installed":AxiomBinaries and AXIOMsys is accessible at the command line (must be in the path). The current interface for Axiom has some known limitations when formatting long mathematical expressions.

   "Cygwin":http://www.cygwin.com is a Unix-emulation environment for windows. The "cygwin version of TeXmacs":http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/download/cygwin.en.html automatically interfaces with "Axiom for Windows":AxiomBinaries provided that the Path enviroment variable includes the Axiom directory as described in AxiomBinaries. This path is set automatically by the "Axiom for Windows":AxiomBinaries installer program. 

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-version of OldTeXmacs does not require the installation of cygwin.
version of TeXmacs does not require the installation of cygwin.

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-of OldTeXmacs.</b>
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-   In OldTeXmacs with the new tm_axiom there is also a new Axiom command.
of TeXmacs.</b>

   In TeXmacs with the new tm_axiom there is also a new Axiom command.

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-   in an OldTeXmacs Axiom session you get the following explanation::
   in an TeXmacs Axiom session you get the following explanation::

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-      Description: options for display of AXIOM output in OldTeXmacs
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-      )set output texmacs is used to control the OldTeXmacs-AXIOM interface
      Description: options for display of AXIOM output in TeXmacs

      )set output texmacs is used to control the TeXmacs-AXIOM interface

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-existing file in OldTeXmacs::
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-     c:\Program Files\wintexmacs\OldTeXmacs\plugins\axiom\packages\session\axiom.ts
existing file in TeXmacs::
 
     c:\Program Files\wintexmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\packages\session\axiom.ts

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-      cd /usr/share/OldTeXmacs/plugins/axiom/packages/session
      cd /usr/share/TeXmacs/plugins/axiom/packages/session

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-To start an Axiom session from within OldTeXmacs use the menu options -- **Insert/Session/Axiom**
To start an Axiom session from within TeXmacs use the menu options -- **Insert/Session/Axiom**

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-   and "!OldTeXmacs":http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/public/wintexmacs-1.0.5.exe .
   and "!TeXmacs":http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/public/wintexmacs-1.0.5.exe .

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-   The following OldTeXmacs documents contain examples of how to use OldTeXmacs with Axiom:
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--  The "Introduction to the AXIOM book":http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/axiom/book-axiom-intro.tm is available in OldTeXmacs format with embedded Axiom commands.
   The following TeXmacs documents contain examples of how to use TeXmacs with Axiom:

-  The "Introduction to the AXIOM book":http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/axiom/book-axiom-intro.tm is available in TeXmacs format with embedded Axiom commands.

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-   "pdf file generated by OldTeXmacs":http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/axiom/tutorial.pdf
   "pdf file generated by TeXmacs":http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/axiom/tutorial.pdf

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-I had installed axiom (3.0 beta, Feb, 2005) on Knoppix Linux with OldTeXmacs and other plugin software. But the "draw()" seems not to work, for instance as insput the following within OldTeXmacs:
I had installed axiom (3.0 beta, Feb, 2005) on Knoppix Linux with TeXmacs and other plugin software. But the "draw()" seems not to work, for instance as insput the following within TeXmacs:

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-I too have problems displaying graphics. I finally managed to get the Windows version of axiom to work with the windows (non-cygwin) version of OldTeXmacs (i.e., WinTeXmacs). I tried the draw command from the axiom tutorial, both in axiom and from WinTeXmacs. Here's the sequence:
I too have problems displaying graphics. I finally managed to get the Windows version of axiom to work with the windows (non-cygwin) version of TeXmacs (i.e., WinTeXmacs). I tried the draw command from the axiom tutorial, both in axiom and from WinTeXmacs. Here's the sequence:

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-Subject: Using OldTeXmacs
Subject: Using TeXmacs

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-Subject: Graphics does not work under the OldTeXmacs 1.0.5 interface
Subject: Graphics does not work under the TeXmacs 1.0.5 interface

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-Under linux with OldTeXmacs, the graphics doesn't appear at all. Just the message indicating the type is shown.
Under linux with TeXmacs, the graphics doesn't appear at all. Just the message indicating the type is shown.

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-Subject: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the OldTeXmacs interface
Subject: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface

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-Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in the OldTeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)? I tried to replace the tm_axiom program with the one that launches axiom or sman  instead of AXIOMsys but doing that causes me to press the enter key several times to get the commands accepted and that is really annoying.
Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in the TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)? I tried to replace the tm_axiom program with the one that launches axiom or sman  instead of AXIOMsys but doing that causes me to press the enter key several times to get the commands accepted and that is really annoying.

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-Also can the axiom help/reference be lanched from within the OldTeXmacs as it can be done using MuPAD from OldTeXmacs.
Also can the axiom help/reference be lanched from within the TeXmacs as it can be done using MuPAD from TeXmacs.

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-Subject: RE:Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the OldTeXmacs interface
Subject: RE:Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface

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-Subject: [AxiomBinaries] Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in	the OldTeXmacs interface
Subject: [AxiomBinaries] Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in	the TeXmacs interface

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-Subject: OldTeXmacs
Subject: TeXmacs

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-The problem with starting axiom (or sman) instead of AXIOMsys from OldTeXmacs is that it writes the prompt twice instead of once when it starts. One can modify tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was done in the old OldTeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.
The problem with starting axiom (or sman) instead of AXIOMsys from TeXmacs is that it writes the prompt twice instead of once when it starts. One can modify tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was done in the old TeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.

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-> in the OldTeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?
> in the TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?

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-in OldTeXmacs. AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed
-by OldTeXmacs.
in TeXmacs. AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed
by TeXmacs.

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-in OldTeXmacs? In what way is the current OldTeXmacs output not nicely
in TeXmacs? In what way is the current TeXmacs output not nicely

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-Subject: AxiomBinaries Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the OldTeXmacs interface
Subject: AxiomBinaries Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface

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-One can modify tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was done in the old OldTeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.
One can modify tm_axiom.c to wait for two prompts at start-up time. This was done in the old TeXmacs interface with commercial Axiom.

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-Subject: RE: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the OldTeXmacs interface
Subject: RE: Hyperdoc and Axiom Help menu in the TeXmacs interface

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->Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in >the OldTeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?
>Is there a possibility of using the hyperdoc type in the commands in >the TeXmacs interface (to get a nicely formatted output)?

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->Axiom hyperdoc is not required to get nicely formatted output in >OldTeXmacs. AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed by >OldTeXmacs.
-What I intended was: Can I use the HyperDoc while still working under OldTeXmacs and get nicely formatted output.
>Axiom hyperdoc is not required to get nicely formatted output in >TeXmacs. AXIOMsys generates Tex/LaTeX output that is processed by >TeXmacs.
What I intended was: Can I use the HyperDoc while still working under TeXmacs and get nicely formatted output.

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->Could you please describe what effect you would like to achieve in >OldTeXmacs? In what way is the current OldTeXmacs output not nicely >formatted?
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-There are a lot of things that can be improved in OldTeXmacs. First of all an online reference would certainely help a lot (those who are Turbo C IDE fans would know this)--one just presses some hot key and gets more information on the command he wishes to use and is not so sure about. He can get some examples on how to use the system, just fill in some entries and get the command output without having to learn hundreds of functions. This would be most beneficial to users new to axiom and to those who have just started to use Computer Algebra Systems. Not only that, this I think would save time of those users who are just using the 'interactive' axiom and not programming with it.
>Could you please describe what effect you would like to achieve in >TeXmacs? In what way is the current TeXmacs output not nicely >formatted?

There are a lot of things that can be improved in TeXmacs. First of all an online reference would certainely help a lot (those who are Turbo C IDE fans would know this)--one just presses some hot key and gets more information on the command he wishes to use and is not so sure about. He can get some examples on how to use the system, just fill in some entries and get the command output without having to learn hundreds of functions. This would be most beneficial to users new to axiom and to those who have just started to use Computer Algebra Systems. Not only that, this I think would save time of those users who are just using the 'interactive' axiom and not programming with it.

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-Subject: OldTeXmacs interface improvements
Subject: TeXmacs interface improvements

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-Yes, I agree that OldTeXmacs has great potential as an graphical user
Yes, I agree that TeXmacs has great potential as an graphical user

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-of the hyperdoc functionality directly in OldTeXmacs as well as support
-for incorporating Axiom graphics into OldTeXmacs documents and even
of the hyperdoc functionality directly in TeXmacs as well as support
for incorporating Axiom graphics into TeXmacs documents and even

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-Subject: OldTeXmacs
Subject: TeXmacs

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-I noticed that the tutorial (tutorial.tgz) above doesn't display correctly on FC4 with OldTeXmacs 1.0.6.  Having just started texmacs for the first time I'm not sure of the details, but the .tm files like oneStep01.tm "link" to the axiom and axiom-tutorial styles and don't display correctly.  I discovered that by reversing the order so that axiom comes before axiom-tutorial they seem to work ok.  A bit of perl will clean them all up:
I noticed that the tutorial (tutorial.tgz) above doesn't display correctly on FC4 with TeXmacs 1.0.6.  Having just started texmacs for the first time I'm not sure of the details, but the .tm files like oneStep01.tm "link" to the axiom and axiom-tutorial styles and don't display correctly.  I discovered that by reversing the order so that axiom comes before axiom-tutorial they seem to work ok.  A bit of perl will clean them all up:

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     )set output texmacs

     --------------------------- The texmacs Option ----------------------------

      Description: options for display of AXIOM output in TeXmacs

      )set output texmacs is used to control the TeXmacs-AXIOM interface
     The default values are controlled by environment variable TM_AXIOM
     and may be overriden by command line options.

     Syntax:   )set output texmacs <arg>
         where arg can be one or more of
       break <on>|<off>      line-break algorithm
       over <on>|<off>       convert 2-d \over to 1-d
       cdot <on>|<off>       convert \cdot to \ (space)
       space <on>|<off>      convert \ (space) to \,
       big( <on>|<off>       convert \left( \right to ( )
       width <9.99>          line width in inches

         <on> may be on, yes, 1
         <off> may be off, no , 0

     The current settings are:
       break 1, over 1, cdot 1, space 0, big( 1, width 4.5

      $ which tm_axiom

      /cygdrive/c/Program Files/axiom/mnt/windows/bin/tm_axiom.exe

     c:\Program Files\wintexmacs\TeXmacs\plugins\axiom\packages\session\axiom.ts

     c:\Program Files\axiom\mnt\windows\axiom.ts

      cd /usr/share/TeXmacs/plugins/axiom/packages/session

      cp /cygdrive/c/Program Files/axiom/mnt/windows/axiom.ts .

s := operator 's DE := D(s(t),t,2) = -k^2s(t) - cD(s(t),t) S := solve(DE,s,t=0,[A,0]?) S1 == eval(S,[A=1,k=1,c=3]?) draw(S1,t=0..100)

Following the compiling of the draw function, I get:

Graph data being transmitted to the viewport manager...

>>System error: SOCK-SEND-INT is invalid as a function.

protected-symbol-warn called with (NIL)

This same error appears both in axiom alone and in WinTeXmacs?. Any ideas for solving this would be appreciated. If I need to set the AXIOM and PATH variables, as suggested above, what should they be set to? You can respond to me at jws@cablespeed.com if you wish.

Thanks, John Sheppard

Graphics still--John Sheppard

Sat, 19 Feb 2005 15:59:29 -0600 reply