Edit detail for #93 Confusing amount of information on Axiom (beginner's issue) revision 1 of 3

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Hi,

As a user new to axiom I find the many different pages on the net dealing with axiom difficult: It takes a lot of surfing to learn which page is relevant.  Right now I saw

* http://page.axiom-developer.org/ (with quite unhelpful descriptions)
* http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone (seems mostly empty?)
* http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage (this seems to be the best for getting started)

None of these pages is easily found by google (try "axiom cas"), they all seem somewhat related, but even after a few days it's not clear to me how they differ and what they really are about.

There should be *one* page containing the relevant introductory material (motivation, description, screenshots, tutorial, download) from a user's perspective (try "maxima cas" in google).  This also helps developers since attracting users is always good in an open source project.

A short term fix would be to put links to http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/FrontPage on the very top of every page and mark them as "for beginners".

From MartinRubey Thu Feb 10 05:36:33 -0600 2005
From: Martin Rubey
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:36:33 -0600
Subject: [#93 Confusing amount of information on Axiom	(beginner's issue)]
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Message-ID: <16907.18040.367490.580826@seam101.local>
In-Reply-To: <20050210033721-0600@page.axiom-developer.org>

Welcome!

This is quite strange. MathAction is the seventh hit on google for just
"axiom", and "axiom computer algebra system" finds axiom on savannah as first
hit.

I agree that there should be only one page, and I am promoting MathAction for 
this purpose. However, especially Bill Page thinks that Plone would be better 
suited in the long run. Time will tell.

Martin

PS: when using MathAction, PLEASE identify yourself. This has to be done only
once, the rest is cookiemagic.

From billpage Thu Feb 10 05:44:23 -0600 2005
From: Bill Page
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 05:44:23 -0600
Subject: axiom cas
Message-ID: <20050210054423-0600@page.axiom-developer.org>

Using a common abbreviation like 'cas' in a google search is probably not a good idea. Unfortunately 'axiom' also is a fairly common word (much more common than 'maxima') however the mathaction web site (definitely the best place to get started) was number 7 on the list when I tried the search and the page description seemed pretty clear to me.

If you are wondering what http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/Plone is about, I recently added some explanation at AxiomCommunity.

I will see what I can do to add a few more "helpful" descriptions to http://page.axiom-developer.org in the next few days.

Thanks for the comments.

From unknown Mon Jul 4 12:31:18 -0500 2005
From: unknown
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:31:18 -0500
Subject: I definetely agree
Message-ID: <20050704123118-0500@page.axiom-developer.org>

Hi --
 I agree with the user that a content-management software is needed. The pages are somewhat confusing.

From BillPage Mon Jul 4 12:53:36 -0500 2005
From: Bill Page
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 12:53:36 -0500
Subject: content-management software
Message-ID: <20050704125336-0500@page.axiom-developer.org>

The Axiom web site is already based on content-management software.
The fact these pages might be confusing is due to either a lack of
talent or time (or both). As an Axiom user, your participation in
improving these pages is **strongly** encouraged. Please edit them
and add your own improved content. Everyone will benefit.

From BillPage Wed Sep 14 22:35:33 -0500 2005
From: Bill Page
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 22:35:33 -0500
Subject: New http://wiki.axiom-developer.org
Message-ID: <20050914223533-0500@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

Status: open => fix proposed