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Time: 2007/11/17 22:15:59 GMT-8
Note: Doyen Wish List

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Here are some related "wish list" items:

1 It should be possible to permanently safe the edits made
  in the Doyen Wiki on the DoyenCD. This would require that
  a copy of the Zope Data.fs file be saved and restored from
  some external writable media or local harddisk.

2 It should be possible to boot the DoyenCD and use it to
  install Linux and the rest of the contents of the CD to
  a virgin computer.

3 It should be possible to mount the DoyenCD on an existing
  Linux system and use it to install the Doyen Wiki and its
  default contents onto the local hard disk.

4 It should be possible to mount the DoyenCD on an existing
  Linux system and use it to install Axiom on the local hard
  disk.

These capabilities would make it possible for users to continue
to enjoy these programs after the initial fun of playing with
the CD wears off. :)

From unknown Thu Jan 26 12:11:44 -0600 2006
From: unknown
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:11:44 -0600
Subject: DoyenCD wish list
Message-ID: <20060126121144-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

1 Is Zope Data.fs file the only required file?

2 This possibly can be done by creating a menu at boot time, giving the user the option to install to HD.

3 Will the user be required to have Zope/ZWiki/LatexWiki already installed?

4 When the CD is placed in a machine (Linux, Windows), it could be possible to find
  Axiom in a directory called tools. I guess Axiom installation instructions must be
  placed there too.

Comments?

From BillPage Thu Jan 26 21:29:51 -0600 2006
From: Bill Page
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:29:51 -0600
Subject: saving edits
Message-ID: <20060126212951-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

> 1 Is Zope Data.fs file the only required file?

Actually, no. It is also necessary to save .../var/LatexWiki
where the images and the local Axiom NRLIBS are stored.

You should **not** assume that the Zope/LatexWiki is installed.
It is possible that the only time the user will be running this
software is when they boot from the Doyen CD, but they might
still want to be able to carry-on editing the contents of the
Doyen Wiki the next time they boot it up.


From alfredo Thu Jan 26 22:17:32 -0600 2006
From: alfredo
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:17:32 -0600
Subject: Install Doyen Wiki in Local System
Message-ID: <20060126221732-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

In regards to installing Doyen Wiki on a local system, how would this happen? Create a script that install Zope/ZWiki/LatexWiki for the user automatically. If so, would it matter that the users have different distros? or should everything be compiled from source? The saving of the Doyen Wiki for a future user session is clear, but I am not clear about the procedure to install the Doyen Wiki locally.

Regards,

Jose Alfredo Perez 

From BillPage Fri Jan 27 10:04:22 -0600 2006
From: Bill Page
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:04:22 -0600
Subject: Re: Install Doyen Wiki in Local System
Message-ID: <20060127100422-0600@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

I don't think you want to compile everything from source - that
would be too much. You have to make some assumptions. Already
with the Doyen CD you are assuming at least an x86 processor.
A simple script that would copy all the required binaries and
start the necessary processes might be ok in many cases. But be
careful not to overwrite any of the user's existing stuff without
warning! And also provide an un-install script.

Different Linux distributions and even different libraries in
different versions is likey to cause some problems. Perhaps this
can be minimized by using static linking as much as possible.
But in any case since the Doyen CD is based on Fedora, at least
it should be possible to configure things so installation is
possible on all Red Hat distros. There is a good chance this
might also work with recent versions of SuSE.

Maybe there should also be a Debian/Knoppix variant of the
DoyenCD?

Better would be to include the necessary yum/yast/apt ...
repositories on the CD and instructions on how to use the
native install for each distro. OK... this does sound like
a bit of extra work! :)


From alfredo Wed Jun 21 15:18:21 -0500 2006
From: alfredo
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:18:21 -0500
Subject: Doyen Wish List
Message-ID: <20060621151821-0500@wiki.axiom-developer.org>

Items 1 and 4 from this wish list have been implemented in the DoyenCD.



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Here are some related "wish list" items:

  1. It should be possible to permanently safe the edits made in the Doyen Wiki on the DoyenCD?. This would require that a copy of the Zope Data.fs file be saved and restored from some external writable media or local harddisk.
  2. It should be possible to boot the DoyenCD? and use it to install Linux and the rest of the contents of the CD to a virgin computer.
  3. It should be possible to mount the DoyenCD? on an existing Linux system and use it to install the Doyen Wiki and its default contents onto the local hard disk.
  4. It should be possible to mount the DoyenCD? on an existing Linux system and use it to install Axiom on the local hard disk.

These capabilities would make it possible for users to continue to enjoy these programs after the initial fun of playing with the CD wears off. :)

DoyenCD? wish list --unknown, Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:11:44 -0600 reply
1 Is Zope Data.fs file the only required file?

  1. This possibly can be done by creating a menu at boot time, giving the user the option to install to HD.
  2. Will the user be required to have Zope/ZWiki?/LatexWiki? already installed?
  3. When the CD is placed in a machine (Linux, Windows), it could be possible to find Axiom in a directory called tools. I guess Axiom installation instructions must be placed there too.

Comments?

saving edits --Bill Page, Thu, 26 Jan 2006 21:29:51 -0600 reply
1 Is Zope Data.fs file the only required file?

Actually, no. It is also necessary to save .../var/LatexWiki? where the images and the local Axiom NRLIBS are stored.

You should not assume that the Zope/LatexWiki? is installed. It is possible that the only time the user will be running this software is when they boot from the Doyen CD, but they might still want to be able to carry-on editing the contents of the Doyen Wiki the next time they boot it up.

Install Doyen Wiki in Local System --alfredo, Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:17:32 -0600 reply
In regards to installing Doyen Wiki on a local system, how would this happen? Create a script that install Zope/ZWiki?/LatexWiki? for the user automatically. If so, would it matter that the users have different distros? or should everything be compiled from source? The saving of the Doyen Wiki for a future user session is clear, but I am not clear about the procedure to install the Doyen Wiki locally.

Regards,

Jose Alfredo Perez

Re: Install Doyen Wiki in Local System --Bill Page, Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:04:22 -0600 reply
I don't think you want to compile everything from source - that would be too much. You have to make some assumptions. Already with the Doyen CD you are assuming at least an x86 processor. A simple script that would copy all the required binaries and start the necessary processes might be ok in many cases. But be careful not to overwrite any of the user's existing stuff without warning! And also provide an un-install script.

Different Linux distributions and even different libraries in different versions is likey to cause some problems. Perhaps this can be minimized by using static linking as much as possible. But in any case since the Doyen CD is based on Fedora, at least it should be possible to configure things so installation is possible on all Red Hat distros. There is a good chance this might also work with recent versions of SuSE?.

Maybe there should also be a Debian/Knoppix variant of the DoyenCD??

Better would be to include the necessary yum/yast/apt ... repositories on the CD and instructions on how to use the native install for each distro. OK... this does sound like a bit of extra work! :)

Doyen Wish List --alfredo, Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:18:21 -0500 reply
Items 1 and 4 from this wish list have been implemented in the DoyenCD?.